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4 February 2022, 06:18 AM
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Observer
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JASta 4 Picture
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4 February 2022, 06:20 AM
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Observer
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query
Front Row 2nd from right:
Why non regulation Uniform?
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4 February 2022, 09:04 AM
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It is Ernst von Althaus - 18th (1st Saxon) Hussar Regiment. Officers commissioned prior to joining the Air Service continued to wear the uniform of their original unit.
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5 February 2022, 12:18 AM
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this looks more like a group photo of different jastas Althaus was co of jasta 10 as well as other pilots who were not in jasta 4.
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5 February 2022, 01:58 AM
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Oblt. Ernst von Althaus served in Jasta 4 from 1 September 1916 until 4 March 1917. He wasn’t posted to command Jasta 10 until 6 July 1917. This photo was taken to celebrate the bestowal of the Pour le Mérite to Oblt. Rudolf Berthold on 12 October 1916. From left to right are: Ltn. Alfred Lenz, Ltn. Karl Stehle, Ltn. Walter Höhndorf, Vzfw. Hermann Margot, Oblt. Hans-Joachim Buddecke, Ltn. Kralweski, Berthold, Ltn. Fritz Otto Bernert, von Althaus, and Ltn. Hans Malchow.
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5 February 2022, 10:35 AM
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Great photo with some heavy hitters in attendance.
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6 February 2022, 12:11 AM
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Greg isn,t the guy on the far right Lt. Wilhelm Frankl ?
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6 February 2022, 06:09 AM
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I think Greg's list is accidentally just one man short. Also if you carefully look at the uniforms you will see that it is not just v. Althaus wearing the uniform of other units. Buddecke is in Turkish Air Service uniform whilst Berthold and Malchow are in Infantry uniforms.
Last edited by saxon lions; 6 February 2022 at 06:23 AM.
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6 February 2022, 05:13 PM
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Yes, to both Saxon Lions and Sator. Sorry about that.
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6 February 2022, 11:27 PM
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Greg, the guy on the far left...Alfred Lenz or Kurt Wusthoff ?
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